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I don't know, its probably just as big as it once was just under another name to make it more political correct. By the way welcome to the forum.

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In my opinion, "compliments" go far better than verbal/ physical abuse or denying someone work because of their looks. I take it your not into tatemae/honne?


Uh, "compliments" are better.... Don't think I'll disagree with you over the obvious there. Did I actually say "'compliments' are worse/just as worse as being dragged behind a truck?" Goddamn! My bad? But I don't think I said that....Hmm. I guess I have to say this, even though I'll regret it. From now on, please take me literally and assume I'm speaking for myself alone, as limitted as my personal experiences are.


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Some people aren't satisfied with anything.


Deep down, I'm really mature. I'll still react with "WTF?" to "compliments" though. So there. It's the ***** part of me that isn't comfy with thanking someone for kicking my brother in the balls while only gently back-handing me. :(

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Maybe you're expecting too much from the Americans? Just give the racists a condescending look (or the "retard" gesture) and then pass them by like they don't exist.


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Move to Canada.




um....i've had a few racial slurs thrown at me canadian style....ain't no better.

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Well times, they are a changing. How long down here?


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as for it being a deterence....from personal experience, it doesn't always work. i distinctly remember kicking the ass of a Kelli Ann Myers in 10 grade on a regular basis for calling me n*****girl at least 3 times a month.

Did you put her in the hospital? Sometimes you gotta break some bones.

Racist people think they're superior. So once you show your superiority over them it conflicts with their thinking. They may still hate you but they'd damn sure respect you the next time you come around... unless they want to get beatup again.



no..no hospital. but the idea of breaking some bones is what stopped me. i was allowing her to get to me....to make me full of anger and hate. so i chose to stop the cycle. it takes at least two...one to do something and one to react. when i no longer reacted, she had nothing to feed off of anymore. also, i learned just how angry i could get and how it could possibly hurt me. besides, i'm just too damn cute to be somebody's prision b*tch.[;)]

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Speaking of racism I think it's kinda weird hearing these people talk about their racist experiences cuz I live in the south and I've never experienced a drop racism a day in my life. I've been everywhere from rock concerts with hundreds of white people to Vietnamese new year where there was nothing but Asians.

police dont even give me any flak. (and I speed a LOT)



well, keep in mind that my experiences are from my youth (late 30's now, eek!). the south is definitely changing....places like atlanta, raleigh, durham....they're the new mecca for many people of color. but go to the really rural areas of the south and midwest and there are still serious issues. also, racism is different now than it was 30-40 years ago.....where as it used to be very blatant, a lot of things are more 'covert'....i'm not sure how to articulate it right now.....having spent some time in the politica arena...lets just say that things are a little scary. in some ways, there have been major leaps backwards. yeah, its kinda scary.

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In the south, I wouldn't respond at all. No offense but those people have a long and proud history of hatred based on race....some of them are still proud of the confederate flag!

In other places it sort of depends on whether the person is speaking out of ignorance or is just being hater or is bating me...the best tact for me is to speak against racism when it doesn't involve me directly then it's the hatred of racism I'm against and not just a comment directed at me.[sm=pdancing.gif]


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i'm not sure how to articulate it right now.....having spent some time in the politica arena...lets just say that things are a little scary. in some ways, there have been major leaps backwards. yeah, its kinda scary.


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Kill all racist problem solved.

Very simple.


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Kill all racist problem solved.

Very simple.

That is a very simple way but it's not too ethical lol


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Well times, they are a changing. How long down here?


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LOL I guess I asked for that. Trying to find a time frame. The South has changed for the good the past 50 years. I still remember the whites only fountains and the movie shows that seperated the races. Now days I can see mixed couples down the street without anyone saying anything but Hi and Good morning (not saying ther aint any die hards out there but they are slowly getting fewer as time goes on, unfortunately it will never die out completely). I said in another thread that each year the guys in their sheets come through to drum up converts. I said we laugh at them, but its not really funny. I'm glad you haven't experienced any or very little, just wish it was more previalent through out the South and the North (and for that matter the world)

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The other day, I was told I sound like Mrs. Swan from MAD TV [:-]

It took a while for me to remember who Mrs. Swan was and when I did, I must say I wasn't pleased.

I told about this to my friends and they said this guy did that only because I was an Asian. (For the record, I have pretty voice!)

Anyway, I knew this guy wasn't the brightest bulb on a tree, so it didn't bother me that much. I was more surprised by his lack of common sense than anything else.

Fortunately, I haven't encountered much prejudice and when/if it happens, I just think of them as stupid f***ing MORON then go on with my life.


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Racist people are typically less intelligent than the average person, and deep down they know it. They know they are inferior in several aspects of life, so they feel the need to use something that they"re born with such as race as an advantage of sorts, because they have nothing else to show. This is why many racists in the US for example are rednecks and hicks in southern states. Obviously this isnt the case everytime but there is a connection between racists and their education/intellectual level. My point is, what these lowlifes think of you is completely irrelavant. Do you care about a rock that is on the side of a road? I bet not, and the typical racist person matters as much as that rock. They are completely useless to society, so you should not worry about those creatures at all. BUT BUT BUT, if someone that actually may be somewhat significant is being racist to you, then you may have a problem.


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Man Kenji you missed a good opportunity for the one finger surprise. I`ll explain:

So what you need to do is:
1. Stop dead in your tracks. This usually makes them very scared, and gets their adrenaline pumping.
2. Look at them dead in the eyes, this also gets their juices flowing.
3. Suddenly put on the face that people have when they are thinking hard. You know, look towards nothing with that questionable scowl and start scratching your head.
4. Then BINGO! You found it, so put your hand in your pocket and give them the reassuring face that you found what you were looking for.
5. Slowly take your hand out of your pocket, so that they will watch closely and quickly BAM!!! Shoot the finger at them.
6. Smile and walk away.

Because their adrenaline was pumping so hard, they will be dumbfounded and will say nothing in return.

Priceless...

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Is anything you say really going to change their ignorance? Its better to not even acknowledge such behavior, which may even actually prevent them from doing it in the future.

Its almost just as bad in Japan. Storeclerks assume that just because I am white that I know English (and no Japanese) so people always automatically speak in English to me...perhaps its also a form of racism. Similar to how they said "konnichiwa" to you.

Overall maybe I think the more you acknowledge their behavior, the more likely they will continue to do it, or keep doing it to other foreigners.


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Kill all racist problem solved.

Very simple.

That is a very simple way but it's not too ethical lol


It's the only way to help purify this world once more. Do you want a world with Racist, Rapist, Murderers, and Pedophiles? My friend please understand it's for the better future of our children. Lets create the golden age for the children of tomorrow.


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The camps were suppose to be for a better future, different people, same reasoning. Shall we tell our children we killed millions for their future? That the way to answer problems round them up and put them against the wall. Once those are out of the way should we get rid of the ones that got rid of the first group. And then repeat the process every decade or so just to make sure we got them all. Not much difference then the people that we're trying to stop is it.

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I agree with y'all about ignoring racist comments/ racists. The problem is that racists often hurt and kill other people...they are cowards that need to be dealt with and killing them before they are caught isn't feasible.


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I didn't know people from Caucasus could have blue eyes and blonde hair. They seem pretty dark haired to me, they resemble various Turkish tribes if I remember correct [8|]

If you were talking about white race, then please call us white or European.


Yeah, but Caucasian is an all actuality the correct word to use to describe "hakujin." White is just as bad a word as "yellow," "red," "black," etc. And the other problem is they're all plenty of White non-Europeans, or plenty of Non-White Europeans for that matter.

It's splitting hairs, I know. But the technically correct word is appropriate because it is the most accurate.


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Caucasian doesn't describe white people in a good way at all, it's a political correctness term invented by Americans because someone obviously feels offended when white people call themselves white.

And did you read a word of what I said? Do you know geography? Do you know where Caucasus is? Do you know anthropology? Do you know what Caucasian languages are? Do you even have any idea who Caucasians are?
What about, let's say, Germanic nations who never lived in the region of Caucasus? Are they Caucasian too? Caucasian might apply only to a smaller portion of Indo-European people, but definately not all.

This is a map of Caucasus and distribution of people who live there:

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Look at those nations:

Abkhaz, Cherkess, Agul, Awar, Chechen, Rutul, Tabasaran. What in the world do Europeans have to do with them so that we are all called Caucasian?

If you are looking for a right term, it's INDO-EUROPEAN. Yes, white Europeans, Caucasians, Muslims, Indians, Pakistanis and others are INDO-EUROPEAN, but definately not Caucasian. Calling all Indo-European people Caucasian would be the same as calling people of Asian race Japanese or Vietnamese or something.

If you don't believe me that other Indo-Europeans are separate groups and not ALL of Indo-Europeans are of Caucasian descent, I will show you genetic markers, haplotypes and haplogroups of various Indo-European peoples. I hope the genetics will be able to convince you that the term Caucasian is completely wrong term to describe Indo-Europeans, let alone Europeans.


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To answer the thread tittle bluntly: I just don't.

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Its almost just as bad in Japan. Storeclerks assume that just because I am white that I know English (and no Japanese) so people always automatically speak in English to me...perhaps its also a form of racism. Similar to how they said "konnichiwa" to you.

Are you serious?? Does this bother you? I would think that they are just trying to talk to you in English or be polite. I personally wouldn't take this as being racists.

If i met a japanese person here in the U.S. I would like to practice my japanese and at the same time make a new friend. However, this could be potentially looked at as being racist, even though there are no intentions in being that way. I just have a personal interest in the language and other things.


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hmmm, this it interesting. I always refer to japanese, Chines, Thai, Vietnames, and Koreans as Asians. And Caucasians.........well.......... just Caucasians. European or not. *shrug*


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Its almost just as bad in Japan. Storeclerks assume that just because I am white that I know English (and no Japanese) so people always automatically speak in English to me...perhaps its also a form of racism. Similar to how they said "konnichiwa" to you.

Are you serious?? Does this bother you? I would think that they are just trying to talk to you in English or be polite. I personally wouldn't take this as being racists.

If i met a japanese person here in the U.S. I would like to practice my japanese and at the same time make a new friend. However, this could be potentially looked at as being racist, even though there are no intentions in being that way. I just have a personal interest in the language and other things.


you missed the part where they were yelling names of chinese food at him.

I know if someone started yelling "chicken" or "watermelon" at me I'd be pretty p1ssed


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Its almost just as bad in Japan. Storeclerks assume that just because I am white that I know English (and no Japanese) so people always automatically speak in English to me...perhaps its also a form of racism. Similar to how they said "konnichiwa" to you.

Are you serious?? Does this bother you? I would think that they are just trying to talk to you in English or be polite. I personally wouldn't take this as being racists.

If i met a japanese person here in the U.S. I would like to practice my japanese and at the same time make a new friend. However, this could be potentially looked at as being racist, even though there are no intentions in being that way. I just have a personal interest in the language and other things.


you missed the part where they were yelling names of chinese food at him.

I know if someone started yelling "chicken" or "watermelon" at me I'd be pretty p1ssed


Either that or I'd get REALLY hungry.[:D]


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Its almost just as bad in Japan. Storeclerks assume that just because I am white that I know English (and no Japanese) so people always automatically speak in English to me...perhaps its also a form of racism. Similar to how they said "konnichiwa" to you.




In all fairness to the Japanese people, the huge majority of foreginers in Japan can speak English and only a handful can speak passable Japanese. Its not racism, its just acting out based on experience/observation. While the bitches that called the OP food names clearly meant it as an insult.


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first, I didn't understand why she called me such things or why they thought it was so funny until I realized that those foods are Chinese foods and that they were mocking at me for being Asian.

Many posters on this thread seem confused... Kenji435 is NOT Japanese nor Chinese because he/she doesn't know which part of the world soy sauce is from.
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And whenever I walk by, they have to assume that I'm Japanese and say "konnichiwa". (That wasn't the first time anyway)

Are you offended because they mocked your being Asian or they assumed you're Japanese when you are non-Japanese Asian? I don't get it...[8|] It's highly unlikely people automatically assume you're Japanese when there are many more Chinese in the US. I'm often taken as Chinese but never felt offended.

Even somebody said to me "Konnichiwa", "Eggroll" and "Soy sauce", I'd be unlikely humiliated especially when said by teenage girls.
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I've lived in the US for a few years now, but there is one thing that I cannot get used to; racism.
I mean most Americans are not as racist as those teenage girls, but sometimes I get treated differently by some Americans just because I'm Asian.

Like what? I don't see much racism in an everyday U.S. life (although I think US is a total racist country for a different reason).
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I know if someone started yelling "chicken" or "watermelon" at me I'd be pretty p1ssed



I love fried chicken, watermelon and okra. If I were Kenji435, I would ask those African-American girls to share their fired chicken and watermelon with me and get to know them.

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Hmm to the original poster, I guess that does kinda suck. But in my experience, race is somthing while a touchy subject, A LOT of Americans joke about right to each others faces. They might just be saying someting as a joke, not necessarily to hurt your feelings. So of course you could probably fire someting back in a nice way (nothing to hurtful, because you could get beat or deemed as a racist... how ironic). Like say chicken and hot sauce in response to egrolls and soysauce, or in case of white people you could say mayonaise and hotdogs or some stupid sh*t (see how stupid but wide stereotyping is especially in such a culturally mixed nation).

And I'm not trying to belittle you or anything but be happy you're not say, mexican, people can be pretty brutal with some of them, even where I live (interracial couples and people are pretty widely accepted here... well in a way). Boss's are beginning to take thier jobs and giving them back to the "rightful" american workers, and people of course make crude jokes about them among many other things (mexicans have even been shot for hopping the border, evne killed but of course in the law it is LEGAL to do so in that situation). I could go into detail on how some other people are racist to other groups but I won't for now (and I think many of us already know).


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